JGowan
Jul 28, 07:30 AM
"Three to Five Years"! What a HARD laugh!
The iPod (which started the whole dang thang) has only been OUT for five years and the iTunes Music Store for about three.
I think it is downright presumptous to predict 5 years down the pike just about anything when NOBODY could've predicted just what Apple would accomplish in such a period of time.
The iPod (which started the whole dang thang) has only been OUT for five years and the iTunes Music Store for about three.
I think it is downright presumptous to predict 5 years down the pike just about anything when NOBODY could've predicted just what Apple would accomplish in such a period of time.
johnnyjibbs
Jun 6, 11:49 AM
I believe that there has to be a "cooling off period" - at least here in the UK - after making a purchase at which point you are entitled by law to return the product. Normally that period is 7-14 days but individual stores may be even more lenient than that.
Whether it is a mistake or not, I'm not sure that Apple can refuse a refund if it is a case of genuine mistake. And didn't Steve Jobs have that button he could press to remotely delete an app from someone's device anyway?
Whether it is a mistake or not, I'm not sure that Apple can refuse a refund if it is a case of genuine mistake. And didn't Steve Jobs have that button he could press to remotely delete an app from someone's device anyway?
JsR
Jan 2, 06:46 AM
Her Mother must be so proud...especially if she is taking the title from her Mum :eek:
kainjow
Oct 24, 08:21 AM
one bit of good news -- the "older" standard 15" MBP refurbs are now only $1449!
Nice find - that's quite a steal :)
Nice find - that's quite a steal :)
TallManNY
Apr 28, 05:03 PM
I agree - if this does turn out to be in fact the truth Apple has some explaining to do.
Yes, definitely a scandal. Steve Jobs must respond to this immediately on twitter so the word gets out about how Apple will make new White Phone's whole. More free bumpers would be the minimum, I would think. We must marshal the media and post youtube videos about this.
Yes, definitely a scandal. Steve Jobs must respond to this immediately on twitter so the word gets out about how Apple will make new White Phone's whole. More free bumpers would be the minimum, I would think. We must marshal the media and post youtube videos about this.
Eriden
Mar 15, 09:22 AM
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Folks - get your asses to Fashion Island - no confirmation on anything, but there's a good feeling here
Around 9 or so in line, as of 7 am
Spectrum does not have anything. Just broke the bad news to everyone in line.
Folks - get your asses to Fashion Island - no confirmation on anything, but there's a good feeling here
Around 9 or so in line, as of 7 am
Spectrum does not have anything. Just broke the bad news to everyone in line.
robtarren
May 3, 09:08 AM
Just ordered mine, can't wait as my 2008 model is starting to struggle, especially with some of the photo editing software that plugs in to Photoshop, and Premiere Pro CS5 dies a death when trying to do anything remotely exciting!
3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
2TB Serial ATA Drive
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5
Apple Magic Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard
As with Zomberunner, I will upgrade memory to 16GB at a later date from Crucial.
3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
2TB Serial ATA Drive
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5
Apple Magic Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard
As with Zomberunner, I will upgrade memory to 16GB at a later date from Crucial.
firestarter
Apr 24, 07:49 PM
Christians are expected to protect their children, and I have never claimed to be a Christian.
I was just trying to draw out what it is at the root of your violent nature.
I was just trying to draw out what it is at the root of your violent nature.
trader889
Jan 26, 11:18 PM
You can't tell much about where a company is going by looking at P/E, as by definition, this is a backwards-looking statistic. All of the companies you mention are growing far more slowly than Apple, which is why their trailing P/E ratios are lower. This is sort of what you said, but it's worth clarifying that you can't necessarily compare P/E ratios between companies with vastly different growth rates.
True, that's why I like to look at the PEG Ratio (P/E to Growth). If we take the current price of 130 minus cash net of payables and receivables (approx $17 a share), you get 113 for the "enterprise" value of Apple. I'll give it a conservative $5/share earnings this year, for a P/E of 23. According to Yahoo, we have an estimate of 30% growth this year, so we are getting a PEG of less than 1 for this year. Less than 1 is cheap, HOWEVER, it doesn't mean it can't/won't get cheaper.
I'm long Apple, so I have a bias, but here are some things to think about:
1) Market is reacting to bad numbers for the ipod, supposedly bad numbers for the iphone, recession concerns etc.. Do you think Apple is not going to come out with anything new this year that can add to the bottom line?
2) Apple is opening up more new stores worldwide. I believe their average sales at the stores is about $4000/sq foot. Their first China store is opening up in Beijing this year (think Olympics). Also, despite some of the headlines about no China iphone deal, CEO of China Mobile (370 million subscribers) stated this past weekend in Davos, Switzerland "We've not started any formal negotiations with Apple. The door is open to all for discussions about fashionable phones". This pretty reiterates what Steve Jobs said. Also, let's not forget all the other countries that have no iphone deals.
3) $18 billion in cash. Let's say that this earns 2%. Comes out to about 30,000,000 a month or .03 per share in earnings just on interest. On the conference call, I think one of the analysts said that Apple is averaging about $1 billion a quarter in cash, although last quarter was killer when they added $3 billion.
4) 45% of Apple's revenues come from overseas. This will only get larger as they open more stores overseas. Unless we get a worldwide recession, overseas sales should help cushion any US slowdown. Also, all the US analysts keep coming up with their updates based upon their "channel" checks, does this include overseas channel checks? I doubt it. So be wary of what they say.
5) Personally, I think the Macbook Air was developed with Japan in mind. In previous conference calls, CFO said Japan was one of the weaker markets. As some of you may know, Japan loves small, ultraportable computers.
Feel to comment/criticize, but as one poster said, if you think Apple is finished as a company, sell. If you think the future still looks good, don't look at the price of Apple for 3 months or as Warren Buffet says, 10 years..lol.
True, that's why I like to look at the PEG Ratio (P/E to Growth). If we take the current price of 130 minus cash net of payables and receivables (approx $17 a share), you get 113 for the "enterprise" value of Apple. I'll give it a conservative $5/share earnings this year, for a P/E of 23. According to Yahoo, we have an estimate of 30% growth this year, so we are getting a PEG of less than 1 for this year. Less than 1 is cheap, HOWEVER, it doesn't mean it can't/won't get cheaper.
I'm long Apple, so I have a bias, but here are some things to think about:
1) Market is reacting to bad numbers for the ipod, supposedly bad numbers for the iphone, recession concerns etc.. Do you think Apple is not going to come out with anything new this year that can add to the bottom line?
2) Apple is opening up more new stores worldwide. I believe their average sales at the stores is about $4000/sq foot. Their first China store is opening up in Beijing this year (think Olympics). Also, despite some of the headlines about no China iphone deal, CEO of China Mobile (370 million subscribers) stated this past weekend in Davos, Switzerland "We've not started any formal negotiations with Apple. The door is open to all for discussions about fashionable phones". This pretty reiterates what Steve Jobs said. Also, let's not forget all the other countries that have no iphone deals.
3) $18 billion in cash. Let's say that this earns 2%. Comes out to about 30,000,000 a month or .03 per share in earnings just on interest. On the conference call, I think one of the analysts said that Apple is averaging about $1 billion a quarter in cash, although last quarter was killer when they added $3 billion.
4) 45% of Apple's revenues come from overseas. This will only get larger as they open more stores overseas. Unless we get a worldwide recession, overseas sales should help cushion any US slowdown. Also, all the US analysts keep coming up with their updates based upon their "channel" checks, does this include overseas channel checks? I doubt it. So be wary of what they say.
5) Personally, I think the Macbook Air was developed with Japan in mind. In previous conference calls, CFO said Japan was one of the weaker markets. As some of you may know, Japan loves small, ultraportable computers.
Feel to comment/criticize, but as one poster said, if you think Apple is finished as a company, sell. If you think the future still looks good, don't look at the price of Apple for 3 months or as Warren Buffet says, 10 years..lol.
rhinosrcool
Apr 25, 11:25 AM
What about a screen bigger than 21.5" but less than 27"?
SciFrog
Oct 26, 08:21 PM
The 80k PPD is a 32 core AMD system...
mdntcallr
Apr 23, 08:38 PM
This is a great thing. Now I wonder if this will support tmobile calls over wifi.
And I hope they sell the phone for higher fee upfront, and lower monthly fees.
That would rock
And I hope they sell the phone for higher fee upfront, and lower monthly fees.
That would rock
Blorzoga
Apr 28, 04:12 PM
Ditto. And if they are different, it's definitely NOT 2mm (1mm per side) like the post says. If anything, it's a quarter of a mm each side MAX.
More like one nanometer.
More like one nanometer.
stukick
Apr 28, 03:53 PM
Well, us Apple folk have to find something to bitch about don't we?
Westyfield2
May 3, 08:27 AM
Nice upgrade :) ... but I was hoping for an 500GB SSD option :(
Apple's SSDs are always overpriced and slower than third-party ones anyways.
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maybe our day will come soon,
Just seems mental how the iMacs are now on second generation Core i processors, yet the Mini is still on C2D.
Apple's SSDs are always overpriced and slower than third-party ones anyways.
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maybe our day will come soon,
Just seems mental how the iMacs are now on second generation Core i processors, yet the Mini is still on C2D.
ZilogZ80
Apr 15, 03:51 PM
They still have Tigon and Liger
This is true, the liger really is the biggest of the big cats.
Also, like most hybrids, they are born sterile so it really would be the last of the line... :D
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.restorationfarms.com/gifs/liger4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.restorationfarms.com/liger.html&h=531&w=353&sz=65&tbnid=CyJJwsA-8sxxEM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=88&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dliger%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=liger&usg=__ae2HocKmmiThzFfogPvFu_jTB9o=&sa=X&ei=Q6-oTbW_K4SzhAfa3-zECQ&ved=0CDQQ9QEwAQ
This is true, the liger really is the biggest of the big cats.
Also, like most hybrids, they are born sterile so it really would be the last of the line... :D
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.restorationfarms.com/gifs/liger4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.restorationfarms.com/liger.html&h=531&w=353&sz=65&tbnid=CyJJwsA-8sxxEM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=88&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dliger%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=liger&usg=__ae2HocKmmiThzFfogPvFu_jTB9o=&sa=X&ei=Q6-oTbW_K4SzhAfa3-zECQ&ved=0CDQQ9QEwAQ
WilliamG
Apr 29, 12:20 AM
My guess is the white one has to be thicker to alleviate the light leakage issue that was rumored/reported. Still sneaky of Apple to advertise it as the same thickness as the black one...
IJ Reilly
Jan 27, 11:35 AM
True, that's why I like to look at the PEG Ratio (P/E to Growth). If we take the current price of 130 minus cash net of payables and receivables (approx $17 a share), you get 113 for the "enterprise" value of Apple. I'll give it a conservative $5/share earnings this year, for a P/E of 23. According to Yahoo, we have an estimate of 30% growth this year, so we are getting a PEG of less than 1 for this year. Less than 1 is cheap, HOWEVER, it doesn't mean it can't/won't get cheaper.
Excellent comments. Long-time AAPL investors have seen these moments of despair before -- too many times before, to be honest. The markets have always treated Apple this way, unfortunately. It's difficult to imagine Apple's prospects being any brighter. The company is moving forward on all fronts. These are times when you have look down the road instead of at the potholes at your feet.
Excellent comments. Long-time AAPL investors have seen these moments of despair before -- too many times before, to be honest. The markets have always treated Apple this way, unfortunately. It's difficult to imagine Apple's prospects being any brighter. The company is moving forward on all fronts. These are times when you have look down the road instead of at the potholes at your feet.
firestarter
Apr 24, 08:29 PM
You mean as the perpetrators did, right? Just checking.
I don't understand your point. Yes, the perpetrators were violent and committed assault. :confused:
I don't understand your point. Yes, the perpetrators were violent and committed assault. :confused:
antpod
Apr 14, 09:35 AM
I cannot believe people are still stupid enough to believe that they will come out with a white iPhone 4 (My personal two cents). It makes absolutely no sense for them unless they really did plan to postpone the release of the next generation iPhone.
Just look at the mediatrends especially how much of the media was hyped on here with bestbuy stocking them up and all other major retailers all of a sudden having the white SKUs in their systems.
Get real guys, if you want a white iphone from Apple. Mostlikely you will never get one hence why i gave up and bought a conversion lol
Lol your going to look really stupid in a couple weeks. Why would you say this when there is so many reports with all the same information coming out? Especially when heads at Apple are saying it? These reports aren't from best buy employees. Those were obviously flakey. But when Bloomberg, Reuters, and Phil Schillerare saying the same thing what makes you think those are in the same league as best buy employees.
Has apple even ever announced a major hardware product in the last 8 years and not released it?
Just look at the mediatrends especially how much of the media was hyped on here with bestbuy stocking them up and all other major retailers all of a sudden having the white SKUs in their systems.
Get real guys, if you want a white iphone from Apple. Mostlikely you will never get one hence why i gave up and bought a conversion lol
Lol your going to look really stupid in a couple weeks. Why would you say this when there is so many reports with all the same information coming out? Especially when heads at Apple are saying it? These reports aren't from best buy employees. Those were obviously flakey. But when Bloomberg, Reuters, and Phil Schillerare saying the same thing what makes you think those are in the same league as best buy employees.
Has apple even ever announced a major hardware product in the last 8 years and not released it?
rdowns
Oct 18, 07:39 PM
Historical Mac shipments by quarter.
1Q2000 - 1,377,000
2Q2000 - 1,043,000
3Q2000 - 1,016,000
4Q2000 - 1,122,000
1Q2001 - 659,000
2Q2001 - 751,000
3Q2001 - 827,000
4Q2001 - 850,000
1Q2002 - 659,000
2Q2002 - 813,000
3Q2002 - 808,000
4Q2002 - 734,000
1Q2003 - 743,000
2Q2003 - 711,000
3Q2003 - 771,000
4Q2003 - 787,000
1Q2004 - 743,000
2Q2004 - 749,000
3Q2004 - 771,000
4Q2004 - 787,000
1Q2005 - 1,046,000
2Q2005 - 1,070,000
3Q2005 - 1,182,000
4Q2005 - 1,236,000
1Q2006- 1,254,000
2Q2006- 1,112,000
3Q2006- 1,327,000
4Q2006 - 1,610,000
1Q2000 - 1,377,000
2Q2000 - 1,043,000
3Q2000 - 1,016,000
4Q2000 - 1,122,000
1Q2001 - 659,000
2Q2001 - 751,000
3Q2001 - 827,000
4Q2001 - 850,000
1Q2002 - 659,000
2Q2002 - 813,000
3Q2002 - 808,000
4Q2002 - 734,000
1Q2003 - 743,000
2Q2003 - 711,000
3Q2003 - 771,000
4Q2003 - 787,000
1Q2004 - 743,000
2Q2004 - 749,000
3Q2004 - 771,000
4Q2004 - 787,000
1Q2005 - 1,046,000
2Q2005 - 1,070,000
3Q2005 - 1,182,000
4Q2005 - 1,236,000
1Q2006- 1,254,000
2Q2006- 1,112,000
3Q2006- 1,327,000
4Q2006 - 1,610,000
zorinlynx
Apr 13, 09:28 PM
I'm not sure why we even need an iPhone 5.
The iPhone 4 is a great form factor. It does the job. At most what it needs is a spec jump (64GB, and maybe clock the CPU faster) and that should hold people over for another year.
I mean, before we had:
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3Gs (pretty much the same form factor but faster CPU)
iPhone 4
I suspect we may get an iPhone 4 plus or something like that.
Also, do you people really need a new phone every year? I had my Treo 650 for nearly four years. The only reason I only kept my Palm Pre for less than a year was that it started having hardware problems.
The iPhone 4 is a great form factor. It does the job. At most what it needs is a spec jump (64GB, and maybe clock the CPU faster) and that should hold people over for another year.
I mean, before we had:
iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3Gs (pretty much the same form factor but faster CPU)
iPhone 4
I suspect we may get an iPhone 4 plus or something like that.
Also, do you people really need a new phone every year? I had my Treo 650 for nearly four years. The only reason I only kept my Palm Pre for less than a year was that it started having hardware problems.
Le Big Mac
May 4, 03:18 PM
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Kinda funny one of my lines just had it's eligibility for upgrade moved up nearly 5 months. Late September to next week, May 9th.
Indeed. This is silly--upgrade eligibility is usually (always?) phone-independent. AT&T has in the past waived or shortened upgrade eligibility so that people can immediately buy the new iPhone model. But they aren't going to extend it solely because of the release date of one phone.
More likely the OP (or reporter) dropped a line of service or some services and because his spend went down his upgrade eligibility is no longer "early' and instead is at the usual two years.
Kinda funny one of my lines just had it's eligibility for upgrade moved up nearly 5 months. Late September to next week, May 9th.
Indeed. This is silly--upgrade eligibility is usually (always?) phone-independent. AT&T has in the past waived or shortened upgrade eligibility so that people can immediately buy the new iPhone model. But they aren't going to extend it solely because of the release date of one phone.
More likely the OP (or reporter) dropped a line of service or some services and because his spend went down his upgrade eligibility is no longer "early' and instead is at the usual two years.
kirk26
Apr 15, 10:25 AM
Battery life is much better with this update. I stream Sirius radio all day and it lasts longer now. Haters gotta hate.
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